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  • WaterFrog
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    5 mile run time

    I just did a run after going to the gym. I wanted to just do it and work on longer distances, my time for the 5 mile run was 40 minutes. In running shoes and shorts, and I suck at running, but I wasn't out of breath like I normally would be. At the last half mile I kept going faster and faster and I was not even tired, legs hurt but that is it. Would that mean I am doing good with my runs? I am a swimmer not a runner, so I don't know much about running. Any advice or criticism about it would be nice, I would like opinions.

  • wizard
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    Originally posted by WaterFrog View Post
    Wait was that one guy saying the week before Hell Week is a rest week? Because I thought there wasn't, maybe the day starting Hell Week or the day before yes. But other than that, I don't think theres more rest than that.
    WTF man. First off you can answer that question yourself by double checking what the person actually ******* said. And second, NO! You didn't read it correctly at all!! I said the week after Hell Week is what is called "walk week" where the running is limited and boots are optional. It is the only week in BUD/S were the PT and Cardio is held back a little bit to allow you to recover from Hell Week. My god dude, if you weren't sure what the quote was all you needed to do was scroll the mouse down and reread it.

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  • WaterFrog
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    Wait was that one guy saying the week before Hell Week is a rest week? Because I thought there wasn't, maybe the day starting Hell Week or the day before yes. But other than that, I don't think theres more rest than that.

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  • WaterFrog
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    I don't want a workout schedule. I just want opinions and ideas. It's really hard and I want to be able to get both done. And hauling ice actually does build strength endurance. That job is really crazy. I want to work hard, but I am trying to workout smart. You know?

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  • wizard
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    Originally posted by fbeetleson View Post
    I agree that you don't need a rest week, but not because there isn't one in BUD/s.
    I'm not saying the reason why you don't need a rest week is because there isn't one in BUD/S, I'm simply stating a fact, which is that there is no rest week in BUD/S.

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    Well to be honest, you need to get your normal workout in, and you just gotta get some priorities straight I think. Hauling ice around cannot substitute all of your workouts. Nobody here is going to arrange you a work schedule. Just get it done.

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  • WaterFrog
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    Jag- Yeah I hate them personally. But since I go to the gym I thought I could try those and immediatley go to my other workouts. They said to shorten the rest period as much as possible. I want to run on the beach or in the woods because the land is not so even. But I try and limit my driving to places because of gas.
    Wizard- That is actually what I want to build into. But with how my summer will be, I don't know if I can go to the gym. Actually I need opinions on this next part. I work for a ice company, in the summer I will be working 7AM-7PM or later 6 or 7 days a week. The work is very tiring and I don't know if I should keep running my muscles down. I fear I will slow down and could fall asleep. In BUDS that is fine, but they have instructors watching you and your not operating big trucks. With my job I am and if I fall asleep(which has happened) I can kill someone, plus I am timed and I want to have as much muscle strength and energy as possible so I can keep my job. When I get home it would be 8 PM, then I have 9 hours to myself before I have to wake up and go back to work. So I am in a bind, any opinions?(this is for everyone who reads it) So I was thinking of starting the real stuff in the fall after the summer rush is over. Don't forget I will be hauling tons of ice a day up ramps and stairs carrying 9 bags of 42 lbs of ice at a time, sometimes more.
    Wizard and ryguy- I don't want a rest week. I have been trained to run my muscles down 6 days a week sometimes 7(which i know is bad) for months on end. I spent years in school doing sports back to back, in which I worked 6 days a week(hard days too because we had nazi coaches in our school) for 3 years straight. I have always been on the move with sports and never had more than a day off. Which was the 7th day of rest. So I know how to run my body tired and keep going.
    fbeetleson- I agree the body only needs 24 hours to rest. I even hate resting on that day because I feel lazy. Oh and in BUDS I think it starts in third phase(could be 2nd) where they have no rest days. So that is one thing to think of. I do not want to be lazy about this and I will keep pushing myself. I want to work hard but think smart. I am only training myself, I do not have people watching me incase something happens. And from what the guys say, they say to work safe and not mess anything up by injuring yourself. So it is kind of hard, and with the work thing it's confusing. I will make a post specifically about my job and how I should train. But I don't know if thats posting too much. I try not to, this is my 2nd post I have made. But all the posts I made I can't find on the internet because it is about me and how I am doing.
    Dreams112-Thanks bro, I just like hearing opinions. See what people can share with running workouts to help prepare. Hopefully see what the safest ways of working out is. I want to work hard, but we can't be SEALs if we mess something up in our bodies. Oh and the kid I mentioned, I think I did in a message. I want to see if he will train with us too. He is really good and wants to be a SEAL too. Well it is still in his head but he is not directing his whole head to SEALs, he is being open about the Navy. And either way he has to be in the Navy anyway if he wants to finish the Naval Academy.

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  • dreams112
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    Keep up the good work brother, we will be pushing those times and distances soon enough no need to rush, just give it everything you got.

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    Originally posted by wizard View Post
    I somewhat agree with you but on the flip side BUD/S is twice as long as that with no rest weeks at all. (except the 1 week following hell week) If your new to running then scale it back as much as you want. You will be able to reach a point where you can run every single week without taking weeks off. I'm not saying this has to be your running plan, but the idea of it makes sense. Slowly increase distances and varieties from week to week and definitely get your mileage up to 40-50 miles a week. Everyones training plans will be different and they should be, but you need a plan. When you get to BUD/S you can take it day to day because everything is scheduled for you. Until then you need to figure out exactly what your trying to achieve and then map out how you plan to achieve it.

    Train HARD, Train SMART!!
    I agree that you don't need a rest week, but not because there isn't one in BUD/s. Because in BUD/s you're running always in boots, and normally in soft sand. If you train like that all the time, I'm sure you will get injured.

    You don't need a rest week because you get rest once a day per week already. In 7 weeks, that is 7 days of rest, which is plenty.

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  • wizard
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    Originally posted by ryguyc26 View Post
    This is a good schedule but I think it would be beneficial to have a rest week every 4th week. Almost every training schedule I have read for running/swimming/cycling gives a rest week every 4th week where you dial back the miles to half of what you did the week before and then the next week resume your steady 10% increases per week. This is mainly for avoiding overuse injuries and just give your body the chance to recover.
    I somewhat agree with you but on the flip side BUD/S is twice as long as that with no rest weeks at all. (except the 1 week following hell week) If your new to running then scale it back as much as you want. You will be able to reach a point where you can run every single week without taking weeks off. I'm not saying this has to be your running plan, but the idea of it makes sense. Slowly increase distances and varieties from week to week and definitely get your mileage up to 40-50 miles a week. Everyones training plans will be different and they should be, but you need a plan. When you get to BUD/S you can take it day to day because everything is scheduled for you. Until then you need to figure out exactly what your trying to achieve and then map out how you plan to achieve it.

    Train HARD, Train SMART!!

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  • ryguyc26
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    This is a good schedule but I think it would be beneficial to have a rest week every 4th week. Almost every training schedule I have read for running/swimming/cycling gives a rest week every 4th week where you dial back the miles to half of what you did the week before and then the next week resume your steady 10% increases per week. This is mainly for avoiding overuse injuries and just give your body the chance to recover.

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  • wizard
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    Originally posted by WaterFrog View Post
    ...I have a year to train, I plan on going in around Feb or later. I have plenty of time, I am not trying to go hard right now. I am just working on a base to start off of. Then I will build from that. I did the mile to see how I felt with longer distances again, since I haven't done them in a year. I felt great, so I know I can do longer distances better than I thought. Normally at the gym I do sets of 1 mile run at a 6:30 then a .5 walk 1 mile 6:30 repeat until I did 4 miles of running. That is how my workouts with running have been like.
    You have eleven months until you want to enter DEP. Then you will have a few months of trying to secure a contract for your desired NSW rating. Upon receiving this contract you will be given a ship date. So you have about a year and some change to get ready to ship out to basic.

    Don't just arbitrarily start running at 5 miles every other day if you haven't had a structured long term running plan before. Jag5543 is right you need to be a well rounded runner and you should have various types of runs throughout the week. Try something like this.

    (R-stands for Rest, no running)
    Week1 3,3,3,3,3,3,R
    Week2 3,3,5,3,3,3,R
    Week3 3,5,5,3,3,3,R
    Week4 3,5,5,5,3,3,R
    Week5 3,5,5,5,5,5,R
    Week5 5,5,5,5,5,5,R
    Week6 5,3,5,7,5,5,R
    Week7 5,7,3,5,7,5,R
    Week8 5,7,3,7,7,5 ,R
    Week9 7,7,3,7,7,5,R
    Week10 7,7,3,7,7,7,R
    Week11 7,7,3,7,5,10,R
    Week12 5,10,3,7,7,12 ,R
    Week13 5,10,3,7,7,15 ,R
    Week14 5,10,3,10,7,15 ,R

    By Week 14 of this schedule you will be running you will be running 50 miles a week. You can scale this back if you want and start with a Week of running 2 miles a day or whatever you have to do. Get a notebook and set REAL GOALS. Don't use the times you get to judge your readiness. You don't have to use this running plan but you do need a PLAN. Get serious about training, read everything you can on running, get running magazines, just be passionate as hell about your health and your fitness.

    The PST scores are very attainable. You just have to be willing to put in the work to get em'.

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  • Jag5543
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    Try to stay off treadmills as much as you can! It's a good alternative if you can't run outside for some reason, but you should try to do 100% of your running outside and preferably on grass, or dirt trails.

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  • WaterFrog
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    I went off of the NSW and after that I built myself a different workout. I am starting out 5 miles every other day for now, then I will build up. I am not relying on Pre-BUDS to build me up. I admit it is a conditioning phase, but it shouldn't be all a person relies on. I have a year to train, I plan on going in around Feb or later. I have plenty of time, I am not trying to go hard right now. I am just working on a base to start off of. Then I will build from that. I did the mile to see how I felt with longer distances again, since I haven't done them in a year. I felt great, so I know I can do longer distances better than I thought. Normally at the gym I do sets of 1 mile run at a 6:30 then a .5 walk 1 mile 6:30 repeat until I did 4 miles of running. That is how my workouts with running have been like.

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  • Jag5543
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    Originally posted by WaterFrog View Post
    I haven't ran anymore than a mile straight, so I am not expecting to be great. But giving me a base I was wondering if it was a good start. My goal is to get 6:30/mile before I take the PST.
    The PST is 1.5 miles. Speedwork is good, you're going to want to run at a faster pace for shorter distances, but if you only run 1 mile to train for a 1.5 mile race... You're setting yourself up for failure. Your goal should be between 30-50 miles a week before you go to BUD/S and you're logging less than 10.

    You're setting yourself up for failure if you're jumping straight from 1 mile to 5. You need to mix fast runs, easy runs, LSD runs, and sprints. Take a look at the PTG before you screw yourself. If you're waiting for Pre-BUD/S to prepare you, you'll fail out of BUD/S. A better goal would be to run a mile in <5:30

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